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Post by Denisa on Sept 3, 2008 6:35:17 GMT -5
^^ I love Gossip Girl
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 3, 2008 15:42:54 GMT -5
Wow!!! Please read this article if you are worried about low ratings. This article isn't specifically about PB, but it says some amazing stuff about it. I've put the good stuff in bold.
Less than 24 hours after the season premiere of Prison Break aired on Fox on Monday, it was downloaded close to one million times, according to TorrentFreak.
Prison Break fans didn't have to download the show illegally. The show is readily available to stream legitimately on both Hulu and Fox.com, where viewers have to sit through a few commercial breaks, but they can still watch the entire episode legally.
Hulu won't disclose how many people viewed Prison Break on the site on Monday, but the show is one of the top 5 most-popular shows on Hulu today, and it was the most-popular show yesterday. There's no way of knowing, though, whether the program was watched more on Hulu than it was downloaded illegally.
The fact that one million people downloaded the show within 24 hours -- a little less than one-sixth of the 6.5 million people who watched Prison Break on TV on Monday night -- proves, though, that P2P isn't going away just because there are legal alternatives now.
"This is a group of people who define themselves in part by the technology they use and the application of that technology," says Robert Rosenberg, president of Insight Research. "Chances are that this is only happening in a defined age group. You'd be hard-pressed to find 60 year-old guys passing this stuff off to their buddies."
Even if file sharers make up a small slice of the population, the impact is not insignificant. Could networks win these viewers back? The most common complaint about big media companies over the last decade is that they've been slow to provide legal alternatives. In this case, however, Fox has gone to great lengths to give viewers an option to watch programs legally online, but die-hard file sharers still aren't biting.
"I think a lot of the problem is that the content providers have typically been using business models that extend backwards in time. They have not been able to adapt their intellectual property and business processes to the new reality -- essentially that all types of information and media are going to find their way on to a network and will be widely distributed," says Rosenberg. "Look at the music industry. They simply didn't have a formula for preventing file sharing until Apple taught them how to do it."
Many legal alternatives could be improved, too, says Eric Garland, CEO of Big Champagne, an online media measurement company. Content providers have been slow to offer legal streaming options in many international markets, and there still aren't many networks that let users actually download files, which is a bummer for collectors, says Garland.
Also, the networks haven't necessarily improved upon the experience on pirated sites, so users don't have much incentive to leave those sites.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it," says Garland. "Sites like Mininova or Pirate Bay have been around long before there was Hulu, and why should they stop using a familiar option that works well?"
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Post by Bryce on Sept 3, 2008 17:41:52 GMT -5
^^ WOW one million people. Well that is wonderful news.. Goes to the notion that Neilson rates are seriously outdated
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 3, 2008 17:52:32 GMT -5
Yeah, and that was just the first day. BTW, I downloaded both eps from itunes...if anyone wants them for the ipod they are available.
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Post by {~}:Wendy:{~} on Sept 3, 2008 20:07:48 GMT -5
well that is great news!!!
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Post by shortstuff on Sept 3, 2008 23:03:51 GMT -5
WOW see, i knew about that, but its nice to see actual numbers! very reasurring, and i KNOW networks know/care about this stuff... this is the very reason they started streaming shows on their websites in the first place.. they know they have to start making a change to appeal to the audience, otherwise they risk losing viewers, and supsequently money from advertising..
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 4, 2008 12:03:36 GMT -5
And it really doesn't look as bad, when you see it in relation to the other show's ratings.
Prison Break’s results from last night, 6.48 million viewers and an adults 18-49 demo 2.6 rating / 7 share were well down from it’s 2007 premiere (9/17/07) (overnight 7.41 million, 18-49 adults 3.2/9), but since Fox didn’t cover Hurricane Gustav that 2.6 demo rating was enough to win the demo title for the night.
Full details: Time Net Show Viewers Live+SD (Millons) 18-49 Rating/ Share 18-34 Rating/ Share 8:00 NBC Deal or No Deal 10.89 2.6/7 1.7/5
FOX Prison Break (8-10p) 6.48 2.6/7 2.6/7
CBS The Big Bang Theory (repeat) 4.73 1.5/4 1.1/3
CW Gossip Girl 3.38 1.7/5 2.3/7
ABC High School Musical: Get in the Picture 2.15 0.7/2 0.5/1 8:30 CBS How I Met Your Mother (repeat) 4.72 1.7/5 1.2/3 9:00 CBS Two And A Half Men (repeat) 7.86 2.5/6 1.2/3
NBC America’s Toughest Jobs 7.33 2.4/6 1.6/4
CW One Tree Hill 3.14 1.6/4 2.4/6
ABC Samantha Who? X2 (repeat) 2.15 0.7/2 0.5/1 9:30 CBS New Adventures of Old Christine (repeat) 6.00 0.7/2 1.0/3
10:00 NBC Hurricane Gustav (was Republican Conv.) 5.47 1.6/4 1.1/3
CBS Hurricane Gustav (was Republican Conv.) 4.09 1.2/3 0.7/2
ABC Hurricane Gustav (was Republican Conv.) 3.20 0.9/2 0.6/2
Shows are sorted by viewers in each time slot.
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Post by Denisa on Sept 4, 2008 12:16:37 GMT -5
wow, that's really great!!!!!
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Post by {~}:Wendy:{~} on Sept 4, 2008 13:10:51 GMT -5
Yeah... it's the way it's always been though. Deal or No Deal for some reason (unknown to me) always has higher ratings than PB
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Post by Bryce on Sept 4, 2008 13:15:59 GMT -5
Yeah... it's the way it's always been though. Deal or No Deal for some reason (unknown to me) always has higher ratings than PB I am very sad to say I have watched Deal or No Deal and it gets you sucked into the show. Its as if you are the one winning the million and picking out the boxes.. Yes I know no logic but its kinda like a vortex that sucks you into the darkness without an end in sight..
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Post by shortstuff on Sept 4, 2008 16:39:04 GMT -5
Yeah... it's the way it's always been though. Deal or No Deal for some reason (unknown to me) always has higher ratings than PB yeah what is up with that? my parents love that show.. if im reading correctly, PB did better than gossip girl, and thats considered a popular show, so thats good right?!
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Post by {~}:Wendy:{~} on Sept 4, 2008 17:16:50 GMT -5
Yeah... it's the way it's always been though. Deal or No Deal for some reason (unknown to me) always has higher ratings than PB yeah what is up with that? my parents love that show.. if im reading correctly, PB did better than gossip girl, and thats considered a popular show, so thats good right?! Gossip Girl is on the CW which is a disgrace of a network, so yeah, not really
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Post by shortstuff on Sept 4, 2008 23:39:52 GMT -5
lol, ok then
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 5, 2008 12:28:15 GMT -5
But nobody is going to illegally download Deal or No Deal like so many people do with PB.
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Post by {~}:Wendy:{~} on Sept 5, 2008 14:50:19 GMT -5
But nobody is going to illegally download Deal or No Deal like so many people do with PB. you make an excellent point!
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Post by shortstuff on Sept 5, 2008 23:02:04 GMT -5
thats true, eh... i hadnt even thought of that.. :uhm:
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 9, 2008 12:20:47 GMT -5
The ratings for Sept. 8th were the same as last week....6.48.
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Post by {~}:Wendy:{~} on Sept 9, 2008 13:31:36 GMT -5
The ratings for Sept. 8th were the same as last week....6.48. shit!
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Post by genpop40 on Sept 9, 2008 13:41:51 GMT -5
^^I know. It breaks my heart.
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Post by Bryce on Sept 10, 2008 12:00:51 GMT -5
The ratings for Sept. 8th were the same as last week....6.48. oh no!!
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